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Regel 16: Regel 16:
  
  
-=== 1. International Camp 2013 ===+==== 1. International Camp 2013 ====
 Joke – Julie and Wout kwamen het idee van international Camp 2013 op GSB niveau uit de doeken doen. Joke – Julie and Wout kwamen het idee van international Camp 2013 op GSB niveau uit de doeken doen.
  
Regel 25: Regel 25:
 Reacties vd andere federaties: Reacties vd andere federaties:
  
-**Les Scouts:​**interessant project, maar SGV heeft al een goed coordinatieteam met de nodige ervaring uit de vorige edities, en weten niet hoe ze daar nog substantiel toe kunnen bijdragen. Willen bekijken hoe ze als associatie meer kunnen bijdragen dan enkel toeschouwer.+**Les Scouts:** interessant project, maar SGV heeft al een goed coordinatieteam met de nodige ervaring uit de vorige edities, en weten niet hoe ze daar nog substantiel toe kunnen bijdragen. Willen bekijken hoe ze als associatie meer kunnen bijdragen dan enkel toeschouwer.
  
 voorstel: COT uit SGV en als andere associaties groepen willen sturen dan voorzien ze ook mensen om in de teams te stappen. voorstel: COT uit SGV en als andere associaties groepen willen sturen dan voorzien ze ook mensen om in de teams te stappen.
Regel 55: Regel 55:
  
  
-=== 2. WAGGGS World Conference : feedback from Pre conference meeting Dublin === +==== 3. Meeting Date with the presidents ​====
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-WAGGGS had decided to no longer accept boys as members of their organisation. So associations who want to accept boy as members, can no longer do this when the association wants to stay part of WAGGGS. +
-The GSB delegation reacted to this : we want to bring the WAGGGS message, but our federation see boys and girls equally in the game of scouting! +
-We understand that WAGGGS fight for women and girls rights, but also towards the boys we want to send out the message that they have to act as worthy scouts and not affend the womens/​girls rights. ​ We understand that in certain countries the work for women/girls rights is very important and that they want women/girls to be able to fully expend their capabilities,​ but in our country there is no specific need for this and we want them to understand this. +
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-The president, Mary Mc Phail wouldn’t listen to our opinion! She does not want to work together in finding a solution, we got a “no” straight in the face. There was no occassion to discuss this, not one possibility. +
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-Many countries are aware of the situation of our country, althought their own country is an only Girl Guides association. +
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-We decided to send in some amendments, want to be seen and especially heard about co-education. We are fully convinced that that is the correct direction in which we have to work more and more. +
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-Martin : You must realise that when speaking to them as SAGNO, while having no boys member of their organisation,​ this gives them the occasion to immediatly close the door for possible conversation. +
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-We have to find out : why do they want to go back in time – the radical backturn towards a closed organisation in which no boys are aloud? +
-We want to hear from Pascale if the cooperation with WOSM is what they said they were planning! +
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-What will we do when they don’t want to listen to our opinion (friendly or less friendly, when we get a slap in the face)???? We have to think about this very good in advance! +
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-FOS Open Scouting and probably Scouts en Gidsen Vlaanderen too have decided that when WAGGGS sticks to the decision, they no longer want to be member of the organisation WAGGGS.  +
-At SGP this is a very sensitive issue and difficult for them, still have to talk about this internal. +
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-We also have to keep in mind that when GSB no longer has member associations in WAGGGS, they probably will set up their our WAGGGS associations here. +
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-Chip : for her WAGGGS with its mission is no longer the organisation in which we recognise us for our scouts and guides. We clearly want to bring them this message. She has the feeling that they try to keep all possible changes outside. They just want to be the Worlds biggest organisation for Women – is not the same as the organisation we need for us to be active in guiding. +
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-Martin : if they choose from now on to be no longer an open organisation to boys and exceptially to boys – then WAGGGS and WOSM no longer have the same mission. For us in Belgium this makes no sense. +
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-Proposal : talk to the committee members individually and ask them “what would you do in our situation? Let them explain what the problem is – our boys are not in our way to be able to play the game of guiding and scouting. Now they actually admit that they made a mistake in the past, but they can not explain what the mistake is, why can’t boys be part of the organisation?​ +
-This way we can easily find out if the decision is an only Mary Mc Phail-decision or from the whole Committee +
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-What’s in stake?  +
-That 2 GSB member associations seriously think about no longer staying member of WAGGGS. +
-What can they tell us now to convince us after their radical decision to stay member of their organisation?​ For Scouts en Gidsen Vlaanderen they no longer are the organisation that they stand for! +
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-What do we want to achief? -> we have to rewrite our point of view from the previous meetings/​Dublin Meeting/​…. It is not possible to get together for this – who will do this? +
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-=== 3. Meeting Date with the presidents ===+
  
 Monday september 5th at SGP - BXL Monday september 5th at SGP - BXL
  
  
-=== 4. Buitenlanddag ===+==== 4. Buitenlanddag ​====
  
 **SGP** heeft besloten om ook in buitenlanddag/​International Day te stappen! **SGP** heeft besloten om ook in buitenlanddag/​International Day te stappen!
  
  
-=== 5. Reputation Camp ===+==== 5. Reputation Camp ====
  
 De website van [[www.respectopkamp.be]] is live, inclusief de videos ​ De website van [[www.respectopkamp.be]] is live, inclusief de videos ​
  
-=== 6. Jamboree Sweden ===+==== 6. Jamboree Sweden ​====
  
 Vraag over Sponsering: Wat zijn de richtlijnen van GSB? Vraag over Sponsering: Wat zijn de richtlijnen van GSB?
Regel 121: Regel 79:
  
  
-=== 7. Volunteering Convention - September 9 and 10 ===+==== 7. Volunteering Convention - September 9 and 10 ====
  
 Vraag van WOSM om samen een stand te organiseren aan het Europese Parlement. Vraag van WOSM om samen een stand te organiseren aan het Europese Parlement.
Regel 128: Regel 86:
  
  
-=== 8. Rondje verbondje ===+==== 8. Rondje verbondje ====  
  
 **SGP** **SGP**
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   * organiseert op August 13th “La Nuit des etoiles filantes”   * organiseert op August 13th “La Nuit des etoiles filantes”
  
Regel 144: Regel 103:
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-=== 9. Varia ===+==== 9. Varia ====
  
   * Er werd besloten om met GSB in het **voorafbetalingssysteem** voor de membership fees van WOSM te stappen. ​   * Er werd besloten om met GSB in het **voorafbetalingssysteem** voor de membership fees van WOSM te stappen. ​
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